#83: On the necessity and profundity of theological slow-cooking with Dr. Jason Duesing.

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In this episode of the Ministry Minded Podcast, I am thrilled to be talking with the Provost and Professor of Historical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Dr. Jason Duesing. In this conversation, we dive into necessity of ministerial training and try to unpack the concept of “theological slow-cooking.” There is a sense in which some approach ministry education as if it were a microwave: the faster the “preacher boys” can get into the ministry, the better. But such notions are, in fact, detrimental if the endgame remains longwinded ministries. There is a profound need in our day for pastors and ministers and theological educators who have been “slow cooked,” who have allowed the course of several years and experiences to develop and mature their hearts and minds for the good of the church and glory of God. Yes, ours is an urgent day. And yes, we have been entrusted with the most urgent news of all. But we must not allow the urgency of the gospel to foil our steadfastness and faithfulness for the things of God. Indeed, the grace of Jesus and the certainty of his authority over his kingdom liberates us to be patient with our passion and mindful of our mission. As St. Paul advises his disciple Timothy: “Hold on to the pattern of sound teaching that you have heard from me, in the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus. Guard the good deposit through the Holy Spirit who lives in us.” (2 Tm 1:13–14) I pray this conversation fosters a hopeful assurance in the calling with which God has put upon each of our lives. Soli Deo Gloria!


Mere Hope: Life in an Age of Cynicism, Jason G. Duesing 

The Theological Educator as Sherpa,” Jason G. Duesing 

The SBC and the 21st Century: Reflection, Renewal, & Recommitment, Jason K. Allen 

Sola: How the Five Solas Are Still Reforming the Church, Jason K. Allen 

The Weight of Glory: And Other Addresses, C. S. Lewis 

The Monsters and the Critics: And Other Essays, J. R. R. Tolkien 

Gospel Deeps: Reveling in the Excellencies of Jesus, Jared C. Wilson 

Tolkien’s advice for preachers,” article by yours truly 

Grace: So Much More Than You Know and So Much Better Than You Think, Brad J. Gray


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Dr. Duesing resides in Kansas City, Missouri with his wife and four children. There he serves as the academic Provost and Professor of Historical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary (MBTS). Jason holds a Ph.D. in Historical Theology and Baptist Studies from Southwestern Seminary, as well as a M.Div. from Southeastern Seminary and a B.A. in Speech Communications from Texas A&M University in College Station. Dr. Duesing also serves as a research fellow for the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC) of the Southern Baptist Convention, on the board of directors for the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, academic editor of the Midwestern Journal of Theology, and general editor for For The Church resources. You can find a collection his writings, remarks, publications, and talks by following his blog, Footnotes. You can find him on Twitter and on Instagram.


Intro music: “Explorers (Instrumental Version)” by The Midnight, The Midnight Music LLC, 2018.

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