#15: On preaching and pastoral ministry with Gerald White.

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Perhaps one of the most misunderstood and misinterpreted facets of ministry is the “call of God.” Some make too much and others too little of the reality that God calls specific people at specific times to speak specific things to a specific group of people. There’s a nebulousness to God’s calling and will, and we especially feel the weight of these realities as we hope to determine what God would have us do with our lives. Young men feel this weight far too often, and Gerald White provides some keen insight into this struggle.

In this episode, Gerald White joins the show to talk with me about the gospel and the call of God. We dive into knowing and understanding God’s calling, and how to be confident of that calling even as he moves you away from a church body. How do you know this is will of God? Is he really calling me to leave this church? Gerald provides some excellent insight into this, as well as what it means to have “broken reconciliation.” Throughout his ministry, you can see and hear the effects of grace on his life. We also talk about our mutual love for the life and ministry of Charles Spurgeon and his continued influence on pastors of all ages.


Lectures to My Students, Charles Spurgeon

George Whitefield’s Journals, George Whitefield

The Imperfect Pastor: Discovering Joy in Our Limitations through a Daily Apprenticeship with Jesus, Zack Eswine

A Body of Divinity, Thomas Watson

Thoughts for Young Men, J. C. Ryle

Apples of Gold, Thomas Brooks

The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith

Grace: So Much More Than You Know and So Much Better Than You Think, Brad J. Gray


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Gerald is the assistant pastor of Emmanuel Evangelical Free Church in Farnham, in the United Kingdom, where he lives and serves with his wife Morna and their two sons, Noah and James. Gerald is a gifted preacher and resolute studier of the Word. He blogs for The Majesty’s Men at The Gospel Plant, where you can find his latest sermons and devotional thoughts as he seeks to lead others to know Jesus and the radical Gospel of grace for mess-ups. Be sure to follow him on Twitter, @geraldwhite_.


Intro music: “West Coast” by Ryan Little, licensed under CC BY 4.0.