#75: On depression, being a pastor’s wife, and ministerial second-hand smoke with Kellie Gray.

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In this edition of the Ministry Minded Podcast, I am elated to share a conversation I was blessed to have with my mom, Kellie Gray, about her crisis of faith and journey with depression. If you have been following this blog for a while, then you are likely familiar with the acute depression with which my mom was afflicted over two years ago. I have done some considerably cathartic writing throughout my own journey in the aftermath of my mom’s suffering. But to hear my mom articulate her own struggles and successes is truly one of the grandest gifts of grace I’ve ever been given. Such is what you will find in this episode.

It isn’t often that depression and faith are conversed about in public forums, let alone with one who suffers (or has suffered) from depression themselves. But that’s exactly what you will find in this discussion as my mom and I attempt to reflect on her battles with anxiety and depression as she testifies to the Lord’s presence as she trudged through “the valley of the shadow of death.” (Ps 23:4) We also talk about the ministry of a pastor’s wife and family, and what the expectations should be for all of them. I pray you find some encouragement through this conversation. If you or someone you know is enduring circumstances similar to those we describe, please feel free to reach out to Kellie — while your circumstance might be different than hers was, she can lend an listening, empathetic ear. God bless.


Exultant Joy in Our Living Hope,” sermon by Dr. Mike Gray 

The smile of God in the storms of life,” sermon by yours truly 

No more tears left to cry: the night of weeping,” article by yours truly 

God loves dark comedies,” article by yours truly

Faith, depression, and clinging to the rumor of grace,” article by yours truly 

Suffering: Gospel Hope When Life Doesn’t Make Sense, Paul Tripp 

Stonington Baptist Church sermons

Grace: So Much More Than You Know and So Much Better Than You Think, Brad J. Gray


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Kellie Gray is the wife of Dr. Mike Gray, who serves as the the senior pastor of Colonial Hills Baptist Church in Taylors, South Carolina. She has been ministering alongside my dad for nearly 35 years. She has three kids (including me), but is often found doting on her four grandkids. Kellie enjoys reading and studying the Scriptures and sharing artwork from her journals. Connect with her on Instagram to see some of those posts, @1happynana. When she’s not doing any of those things, you can find my mom smocking — it’s a type of sewing, look it up — where she develops projects for her online store, Sew On & Sew Forth. If you would like to connect with Kellie to chat about ministry life, especially along the lines of ministering as a pastor’s wife, feel free to do so by sending her an email.


Intro music: “You Say (Instrumental Version)” by Lauren Daigle, Centricity Music, 2018.